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- By Omegas7 Date 2012-05-19 16:49
Is Releasy any better than Ocra? I am trying to use Release, but don't really get how to do it. I am reading http://rubydoc.info/gems/releasy/0.2.2/frames, but still don't quite see how (I mean, there's an "example", but it really doesn't tell me what to do).
- - By Spooner Date 2012-05-19 22:55
Well, since I wrote it, I will argue that it is a lot better than Ocra, but that might not be important to you. If you want to create OSX releases on any OS or Windows releases on OSX/Linux, then it just wins :) It also makes it considerably easier to create a proper windows installer by pretty much doing that for you if you want that, compared to managing it using Ocra/Innosetup yourself. Importantly, Ocra alone doesn't do anything that Releasy doesn't do, but Releasy does a hell of a lot more than Ocra.

It is, as you point out, not terribly well documented and it isn't as good at explaining errors as it should be. I've had a bit of a break from coding and Releasy really is the thing I need to clean up and push out to the community as I can, because it is nearly very good :)

If you have more specific questions, related to your project, then do ask.
Parent - - By Omegas7 Date 2012-05-20 02:34
Hello! Okay, well:

By Windows Installer, you mean that, unlike Ocra, I can create a game that doesn't have to extract itself all the time to play?

Also, in the example, what is that code? In short: what do I really have to do to build my game with Releasy? Do I have to copy that code somewhere? In my own game project?
Parent - By Spooner Date 2012-05-20 11:24
Yes, you can create a proper installer (:windows_installer) or zip (:windows_folder) with Releasy that doesn't extract to the tmp folder on each run. This saves a second or two at each startup. You can create the installer with Ocra/Innosetup, without Releasy, but it is a lot more fiddly.

The code is to put into your project's Rakefile which gives a number of extra Rake commands to generate your release. It should be altered based on what sort of releases you want and details of your project, of course!
- - By rremedio Date 2012-05-21 19:17
Maybe my installation is broken (I'm having a hard time installing several gems on my new Win7 64bits system, gem install releasy was not working, so I installed all dependencies manually), but I've tried to use Releasy just for testing and got the following error (trying rake build).

rake aborted!
No such file or directory - pkg/window_WIN32.exe

Tasks: TOP => build => build:windows => build:windows:folder => pkg/window_WIN32

(See full trace by running task with --trace)

Any ideas?

Thanks!
Parent - - By Spooner Date 2012-05-21 23:57
Not really enough information there, sorry. What Releasy code are you using? The errors may be clearer if you add a call to #verbose in the Releasy block.
Parent - - By rremedio Date 2012-05-23 15:32
Don't worry, Spooner. The problem was on my rakefile indeed (first, wrong "file" arguments, then a file named with invalid character on my resources). I'll still cannot build a win installer, but I'll check it again before asking for help (it seems like my installation is not recognizing innosetup and 7zip, but I'm not sure).

Thank you!
Parent - - By Spooner Date 2012-05-23 22:19
I'm often on the #gosu IRC channel in case you need direct help. Presumably I could have given better error messages if the files were at fault?
Parent - - By rremedio Date 2012-05-24 16:06
I'm not sure it was a problem with the error messages not being clear enough. I think it was my old code behaving oddly and my lack of best practices as I work with Ruby for very specific tasks and maybe tools like Releasy expect the users to make thing on a more "rubish" way (which I think is the way to go). And I still need to take some time to study Ruby and make my coding better.

Better error messages are always good, but after checking it again, I notice it builds even with missing files, so the real problem was a filename with a special character (and it was an image file not used by the app, it was generated by accident by pressing CTRL+V and I didn't notice). The message displayed talked about wrong encoding but I searched for it inside the source files until I noticed that useless image file. I really can't say if the message wasn't clear or I was a little dumb =)

Anyway, now everything works. Releasy is great! Thank you!
Parent - By Spooner Date 2012-05-25 00:18
Ah great, thanks for clearing that up. I've added an issue, but I'm not sure whether it needs to be addressed just yet: https://github.com/Spooner/releasy/issues/29
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